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The Sandcast after The Sandcast... A myth?? No, just a reality!!
4pots1969:
--- Quote from: Sgt.Pinback on April 30, 2016, 12:44:14 am ---Those were just CB750 then.
And the whole world desperately wanted them.
No idea why they took some old cases for France.
Maybe this was a way to get some extra bikes imported.
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I do not think they were for France, it's just chance... They could go to Germany, England, the USA and even just stay home in Japan... The more legitimate they would arriving in England because they had not received...
The "old cases" were merely the emergency solution while Diecast output to respond to the request that has literally exploded !! They had no choice but to dip into reserves "old cases sandcast"...
It was said they had boosted production Sandcast casings in full production Diecast but for me is a crazy idea...
Casting stamps anyway dates correspond to 1969...
CBman:
Steve:
I was answering your question: "Have any 14xxx-17xxx vin sandcasts been discovered in Germany ?"
It is not possible, while bikes for France had to be just for France to pass regulation for lighting and so on. So these canīt appear in Germany or other countries, while they have different model of CB750.
Gerard:
same about that 14xxx-17xxx would be for UK. There were just officially imported bikes from frame number 10xxx and especially UK CB750s were different than bikes for another countries. So hard to be possible.
Strange there is so big spread among 14xxx and 17xxx. Hard to beleive, that Honda will make 3000 bikes with snadcast cases, or just to replace random diecast series with sandcast cases. And question is, why Honda would make any special new clutch cover9/10? It has no sence. It costs money and time.
It would be nice to see any really completely original french snadcast CB750, not restored, not modified. I think this could be only proof that Honda did it, not local importer or dealer, or customers.
kp:
This is a very informative and educational topic and I thank our French members for the discussion. The fact that you guys know so much about what was sold and the numbers sold is way ahead of other countries outside the US. In Australia we know dip shit about those early imports. A sandcast is a sandcast regardless what the number stamped on the case says so keep the discussion going. It would be an amazing discovery to find other sandcast engines in other countries. Our good friend Tom Courtney said some years ago that such an engine was "maybe/supposed" to have been sold in Australia. KP
4pots1969:
--- Quote from: CBman on April 30, 2016, 07:28:01 am ---Steve:
I was answering your question: "Have any 14xxx-17xxx vin sandcasts been discovered in Germany ?"
It is not possible, while bikes for France had to be just for France to pass regulation for lighting and so on. So these canīt appear in Germany or other countries, while they have different model of CB750.
Gerard:
same about that 14xxx-17xxx would be for UK. There were just officially imported bikes from frame number 10xxx and especially UK CB750s were different than bikes for another countries. So hard to be possible.
Strange there is so big spread among 14xxx and 17xxx. Hard to beleive, that Honda will make 3000 bikes with snadcast cases, or just to replace random diecast series with sandcast cases. And question is, why Honda would make any special new clutch cover9/10? It has no sence. It costs money and time.
It would be nice to see any really completely original french snadcast CB750, not restored, not modified. I think this could be only proof that Honda did it, not local importer or dealer, or customers.
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John, I know your skepticism for Sandcast after 7414 ....
And I completely respect your opinion ... because no one was prepared to see out of nowhere Sandcast in series 14 and 17... This is the icing on the cake for certain where the grain of sand in the gears for others...
But think that they were made by a dealer and they are not 100% orignale Honda factory does not seem reasonable...
For reference : The sandcast E-1014149 with 1,500 miles is 98% original except for the paint candy, 2 tires and 4 mounting bolts for a front engine housings protects had been mounted by the first owner and the 4 bolts were lost...
On the last picture is fitted with a flat handlebars like Kawa of the time in France, it changes but I think it suits him rather well ...
I took these pictures myself and the advertising for Coke is involuntary!! ;)
Steve Swan:
Gerard, ditto what KP said. Thank you for such great posts and pictures. to write the good stuff you write, using a translator, takes persistence, perseverance, and TRUE passion for motorcycles.
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