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More and more surprising!! VIN-1014046/E-1014138

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4pots1969:
I am very satisfied :) to have opened this topic because, not having seen
the numbers redoes, and it is the proof that the engine was well changed..
My first thought was for a confusion and a haste on assembly lines.
Now I think that we can forget this hypothesis..
It is very good and rather reassuring... 8)

kp:
That VIN and engine # seem to be in the same series as the other group of sandcast engined bikes. I wonder of the owner kept the engine cases  ???

CBman:
I´m sorry, but I think that all french sandcasts are fake. It is not possible to make 3000 sandy bikes in range of 14k to17k just only for France. It is also nonsence to make special clutch cover in mass production after 7000 units were just made, and than switch back to standard cover. Sorry, but this case has no sence, and Honda was not stupid in 1970.

4pots1969:
Hello CBman,

No problem..Everybody has the right to give its opinion and you are free to think of what you want... 8)

I´m sorry, but I think that all french sandcasts are fake. It is not possible to make 3000 sandy bikes in range of 14k to17k just only for France??.  

I think that you did not understand everything but I excuse you because my English is very bad!!
Who said where writes it?? Absolutely nobody!!  In any case it is not me..
We speak only about some tens of copies in 20? 30? 50?.. And even can be even more!!  But who can say it?

They would have been made in the series 14000 17000 and even 12000 (??) long after period 1007414 to assure the high demand of the beginning of year 1970, but as is used nobody really knows it on the other hand what we know, it is whom they are there and whom they are very real...

Then believe in one in it where then we nor believe not as you it is not the most important.. But it is necessary to make with, simply!!

And they were not specially made for France, not at all. They arrived in France by the purest fate and they would have been very well able to arrive in Germany where in the USA where simply to stay in Japan.. There, they would have been accepted and nobody would have had the idea to dispute these Sandcasts exceptional...

Who can dispute this engine bloc Sandcast E-1017118 over this photo?
If that it is a fake, the counterfeiter is a "Big artist" and I make him one "Standing ovation"!! ;)

Best Regards, Gérard G

kp:
I have to agree with 4pots1969. These sandcast engines exist and could easily have been delivered to other countries.The stampings look to be absolutely genuine as do the engine cases and I think to dispute this is just not reasonable. I can understand the reluctance of some here to dispute the facts but we are a group that needs to seek whatever knowledge we can about the production of the early CB750. My good friend Tom Courtney has some comment on a later than 7414 VIN sandcast engine in Oz and I originally didn't think he was right but having seen the evidence of these French delivered bikes then I have to say there is much we still don't know and anything is possible. My "very weak" theory is that they were spare part (replacement) engine cases that were taken from the inventory and used in the regular production line given the die cast engines were in full use by this time.
Viva la France  8)

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