Honda CB750 Sandcast

Restoration of Sandcast #97

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4pots1969

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Hi Mark, on your 97 engine start-up video, I seem  see the longer winkers rods on the front ...
Were they longer on the very first Sandcast models?


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I am not aware of different lengths. There was only one stem on #97. It had a 19mm hex and was about 38mm between the hex and the winker base. Every other one that I have has a 17mm hex and is the same 38mm dimension. I used two NOS stems that matched the one on #97. Has anyone seen a different length on sandcasts?
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1969 CB750 sandcast #97 restored - Sold Restoration thread link
1969 CB750 sandcaxt #576 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #1553 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #1990 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #5383 restored - Sold Restoration thread link
1970 CB750 K0 restored - Sold
2010 H-D Tri Glide Ultra Classic (Huh?)


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I have not. Of course they went to shorter versions around 1975.
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It's just a question... Because we do not know much in France of the peculiarities of the first Sandcast because the first arrival "official" is dated at the beginning of October 69 and set aside the 313 we have never found trace of the 73 bikes of the month of September 69 or it was marked "California" on the wooden crates containing the bikes.
And how much does the stem in mm from the start of the blinker to the nut near the headlight bowl?


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That is the 38mm dimension I referred to.
Mark B
1969 CB750 sandcast #97 restored - Sold Restoration thread link
1969 CB750 sandcaxt #576 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #1553 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #1990 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #5383 restored - Sold Restoration thread link
1970 CB750 K0 restored - Sold
2010 H-D Tri Glide Ultra Classic (Huh?)



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I’m am going to sell #97. I’ve had it almost 10 years and have had a ton of fun with it but priorities are changing and it's time. Besides I have at least three other projects I’m working on.

Most of you guys know about the bike, but to the best of my ability I have put together a summary here. I’ve probably missed something but everything thing else is in this thread. For all that I have put into it I would like to see it go to a good home so I’m reluctant to put it on eBay, although maybe that would be just fine. But if anyone here is interested I would like to give you a shot.

I’m trying to come up with a price and I’ll be checking out the Mecum Auction in Las Vegas (maybe this isn’t the best timing). I will say I don’t want to give it away. It’s pretty special and very correct. There are maybe 15 2-digit sandcasts in the world (probably less than half that number in the U.S.) and only a few as nice as #97. If I get the right offer it’s gone. If anyone is interested reply here or PM me.

History
•   Had been parked in 1979 in Texas
•   Attempted startup in 1986 but supposedly couldn’t get carbs right
•   Parked again until bought in spring of 2010 in Oklahoma
•   On loan for display at the Petersen Automotive museum from December, 2015 to March, 2017
•   On display at the Minneapolis Motorcycle Show February 1-3, 2019
•   June 14-15, 2019 motorcycle show at the Minnesota State Fairgrounds VJMC Best in Show, AMCA Junior First Award with 100 points
•   Featured in the AMCA magazine August/September 2019 and AMCA 2019 calendar for August

General
•   VIN CB750-1000097
•   Titled in Minnesota
•   Original red color paint done by Blake Conway (Vic World’s painter)
•   Everything works and it runs - 2.4 miles on odometer

Engine
•   Original crankcases engine number CB750E-1000100
•   No casting date on upper case
•   Original crankshaft with 10mm rotor bolt (up to engine 1080)
•   Original R1 camshaft
•   Original sandcast cam holders
•   M8 x 80 mm long rear crankcase bolt (up to engine 140)
•   Correct original 9-hole clutch cover
•   Thin-lipped, smooth Honda logo alternator cover
•   Smaller diameter front oil gallery plug (up to engine 219)
•   Sandcast chain tensioner body
•   Rear cylinder head bolt, special
•   Sandcast oil pump, gear shaft housing
•   Correct 3-piece sandcast clutch center (up to engine 1759)
•   Smooth correct oil filter cover
•   14mm hex oil filter bolt
•   16-tooth drive sprocket
•   New correct rubber spacers between fins
•   Original valve cover with internal waffle pattern
•   Original cylinders (resleeved to stock bore)
•   Original head with two spot-faced holes under cam towers (up to engine 563)
•   Correct twin lock washer on transmission linkage
•   Original early countershaft bearing holder (rare)
•   Correct “8” bolts everywhere
•   All new O-rings, seals and ball bearings
•   Original smooth rubber oil lines with smooth crimped ferrules (rare)

Frame
•   Adhesive tag on RH steering head, no build date
•   Yamiya 10 hole seat with orange foam
•   No diagonal brace on center stand
•   Correct early “8” bolts everywhere
•   Original battery box
•   Original top fork clamp
•   LH horn with grey sheath
•   No tach cable guide on horn
•   -050 wire harness installed

Carbs
•   Restored to pre recall (as left factory) condition
•   Honda “28” carburetor caps
•   Short carb springs – repros
•   Short throttle slides
•   5mm throttle cables and adjusters (repros)
•   Correct short cross tube on T-joints
•   Horizontal brass carburetor vents (super rare)
•   66 mm long choke arm
•   Correct nickel chrome plated carb clamps

Gas tank
•   Original 19 liter gas tank
•   Decals used for stripes
•   Short neck petcock
•   Needs correct fuel lines

Side covers and air box
•   Correct small side cover grommets
•   Correct Honda 2-hole air box – not repro
•   Correct Honda side covers – not repro
•   No rubber cushions for air box mounts
•   No reliefs on upper corners of air box
•   Smooth air box boots
•   Correct zinc plated clamps

Front wheel
•   Double-cut front fender
•   Correct refurbished front brake disc, repainted and reground with radial grind marks
•   Honda NOS fork tubes
•   12mm hex for front axle clamp nuts
•   Correct yellow zinc spoke nipples with turned down ends
•   Period correct Bridgestone Super Speed 3.25 x 19 tire (used, show only)

Front brake
•   Tokiko 1 brake caliper
•   Knurled socket head cap screws on brake caliper
•   No guide lugs on junction for top brake hose
•   Short neck brake hoses
•   “8” bolts on master cylinder clamps
•   Upper brake hose steel neck fitting straight
•   No level ring on master cylinder (rare)
•   Chrome brake line bolts
•   No rubber boot on fitting to master cylinder
•   Machined master cylinder cap

Rear wheel
•   Rolled rear rim
•   Correct short chain guard
•   Original correct rear brake panel
•   No hole hub (super rare)
•   No holes in ends of symmetrical rear wheel cushion rubbers (rare)
•    “8” original bolts on sprocket hub
•   Original 2-hole rear fender
•   Correct yellow zinc spoke nipples with turned down ends
•   Period correct Bridgestone Super Speed 4.00 x 18 tire (used, show only)

Exhaust
•   No number pipes with Lotus Root baffles (repro)
•   Exhaust spigots with radiuses on diagonal sides
•   5mm thick flanges on exhaust spigots
•   Fat fin exhaust clamps
•   Short pillion/muffler bolts 126 mm long

Handlebar & controls
•   No Off-On-Off markings on RH switch body (rare)
•   No ribs on speedo/tach rubbers
•   Pointer-less kill switch knob
•   11mm mirror stems (repros)
•   19 mm hex on blinker stems
•   Rearview mirrors with patent number
•   Round hole in speedo/tach mounting rings
•   Repro tach and speedo cables with short knurled nuts (pretty good)
•   Original gauges – refurbished by Marcel (Lecram)
« Last Edit: February 11, 2020, 09:16:42 am by markb »
Mark B
1969 CB750 sandcast #97 restored - Sold Restoration thread link
1969 CB750 sandcaxt #576 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #1553 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #1990 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #5383 restored - Sold Restoration thread link
1970 CB750 K0 restored - Sold
2010 H-D Tri Glide Ultra Classic (Huh?)


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Good luck with the sale Mark.  I hope it goes to someone here who appreciates the level of work youve put into the bike.
All the best, Steven.


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I have seen this bike in person. It is easily one of the best restorations I have ever seen.

You will miss it Mark! :)
Ujeni Motors
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Sandcast #538 Watch the restoration!
Sandcast #6592 All original daily driver.
Diecast #16608


markb

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Thanks for the for the kind words guys.

You're probably right Sam.  :( But I have three other projects to keep me busy. At least one of them is 3-digit.  ;)
« Last Edit: January 20, 2020, 08:12:19 pm by markb »
Mark B
1969 CB750 sandcast #97 restored - Sold Restoration thread link
1969 CB750 sandcaxt #576 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #1553 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #1990 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #5383 restored - Sold Restoration thread link
1970 CB750 K0 restored - Sold
2010 H-D Tri Glide Ultra Classic (Huh?)


markb

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I have finally decided on a price. After seeing the results at the Mecum auction and talking to several knowledgeable people I have decided on $69,000. I know some people may think I'm crazy but that's what I'm asking. If you're interested please contact me.
Mark B
1969 CB750 sandcast #97 restored - Sold Restoration thread link
1969 CB750 sandcaxt #576 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #1553 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #1990 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #5383 restored - Sold Restoration thread link
1970 CB750 K0 restored - Sold
2010 H-D Tri Glide Ultra Classic (Huh?)


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Priced low. For a bike of this caliber restored at this level, $69k is a great deal.
Ujeni Motors
Sandcast #410
Sandcast #538 Watch the restoration!
Sandcast #6592 All original daily driver.
Diecast #16608


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Mark, good luck with your sale.  It is well worth your asking price and then some. 


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After the recent eBay auction for KP’s 2-digit sandcast I’m lowering my expectations for what I would like to get for #97. I started high for probably obvious reasons but I am lowering the price to $60,000. I will consider offers. I have three people that have expressed interest but no offers yet. If anyone is interested feel free to contact me.
Mark B
1969 CB750 sandcast #97 restored - Sold Restoration thread link
1969 CB750 sandcaxt #576 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #1553 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #1990 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #5383 restored - Sold Restoration thread link
1970 CB750 K0 restored - Sold
2010 H-D Tri Glide Ultra Classic (Huh?)


Sam

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This is one of the highest quality restorations that the community has seen, was featured in one of the world's top museums and is fabulously well-documented. It's all there folks. Someone is going to get a deal.
Ujeni Motors
Sandcast #410
Sandcast #538 Watch the restoration!
Sandcast #6592 All original daily driver.
Diecast #16608