Honda CB750 Sandcast
Buy and Sell => Motorcycle's For Sale => Topic started by: lencamp1 on October 20, 2011, 06:53:06 pm
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I recently acquired a sandcast K0, serial number 1007414. It had been parked in a barn since 1971 and has 7714 total miles on it. It is in rolling chassis condition with the engine in basket case condition. I have come to the conclusion that a proper restoration may be over my head, both technically and financially. That being said, I'm now exploring the possibility of selling my K0. If you or anyone you know, might be interested in purchasing this bike, please let me know. I will provide photos of everything I have. I would also be interested in trading for a running, later CB750.
Thanks,
Len
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Your listing vin 7414, is this the frame vin ?
If so, what is the engine vin ?
If 7414 is the engine vin, then what is the frame vin ?
How many screws are fixing the clutch cover to the crankcases ?
Where are you located in Colorado ? I live in Fort Collins.
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haha! Steve, I knew you would be on that one! hmmm, engine 7414 could be interesting!
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I'm just excited to know there's another sandcast in Colorado ! It would be nice to know where the bike goes, when it does sell. Len says the frame is 7414 and the engine is 2428. Would be great for us to see some pictures !
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Len?
We are all interested to know more specifics about this bike. Your either pulling our legs or you have the last sandcast ever produced. Knowing more specifics about this bike would not only answer some topics that we have been discusing it would also help land you a buyer. Chris.
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Yes please, more info. If this is accurate seems to me this is huge news. The only thing better would be to find engine number 7414. Unusual engine number though. Biggest question I think, is it original? For what it's worth I'm a little skeptical about this but I would love to be proven wrong. Definately need pictures.
Mark
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Very interesting, especially given the apparent difference in numbers (replacement motor maybe?).
As Mark rightly says though, the bike with MOTOR #7414 is likely to be even more of a find given that we have no idea what its frame number might be in due to the randomness with which Honda paired chassis and engine.
Pictures would indeed be great.
Chris R.
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Len's out of town (playing with his band here in Ft. Collins this wk.end.) He told me he will be posting pics when he gets back home. With 7714 miles on the clock, one can only hope chassis is in pretty decent shape, assuming it's a life long Colorado bike. From Len's first post, the eng's a basket. Being eng's apart, makes me wonder if cases are broken or if eng suffered another demise. If cases are in fact broken and bike's been "parked in a barn since 1971," logic could follow broken 2428 cases sitting with bike in barn since 1971, could likely be original to 7414 frame. As everyone's said, 7414 is a frame number with a certain "ring" to it. Certainly makes one have to wonder if E7414 still exists. Certainly would expect frame 7414 to have a higher Evin than 2428; however, as we know, anything's possible with these sandcasts, either having occured at the factory or within the nearly 43 years since leaving the factory.
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Len's bike is from South Dakota and yes there is a hole in the usual place sprocket area, the color is candy blue green, no title. Marty K.
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Len's bike the motor is original to the bike. Motor probably had a problem during test running, pulled, fixed and re-installed in a later frame (7414). Marty K.
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So in trying to understand this correctly, this bike would not be the holy grail. The site states "inclusive of engine numbers CB750 1000001 to CB750 1007414. So although frame 7414 is a cool find, the holy grail would be engine 7414 in it's original frame. (number unknown??) ???
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Yeppers on that, don't know what number would have been stamped on frame E7414 went into. There were 7414 cases stamped to assemble engines for assembling production motorcycles (not counting the French 14xxx sandcast(s) so it would seem to follow there were 7414 frames stamped, so one would think no sandcast case set was put into a frame stamped >7414. Parts Book is the reference typically used to determine where "sandcast," began and ended. Although there is no reference to crank cases being "sandcast" in any period Honda literature i am aware of, it's commonly accepted the Parts Book reference to Evin 1 thru 7414 as being sandcast type cases. None the less, very interesting frame 7414 has surfaced, especially with a 2428 Evin. Marty's observation E2428 could have been held back from the assembly line because of some problem, then repaired and installed near the end of the run is a good one.
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Wayne:
Correct in the bike not being the holy grail, close but no cigar. Len also is not sure if all the engine parts are there or not. Marty K.
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Seems to me the randomness of frame / motor pairings is such that there ought to be VINs below 7414 fitted with die cast motors (see 6403/8971 in the directory assuming it to be "factory"), and sandcast motors in higher than 7414 VIN frames.
Chris R.
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len's bike update the motor is vin CB750E-1002428 and the frame vin is CB750-1002307 not 1007414 as previously thought. The hole is in the lower case and the motor internals are pretty rusted. Marty K.
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Well, at least it caused a bit of a stir here for a while! ;) ;D
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Yep Wayne, it did indeed ;D
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len's bike update the motor is vin CB750E-1002428 and the frame vin is CB750-1002307 not 1007414 as previously thought. The hole is in the lower case and the motor internals are pretty rusted. Marty K.
Well that makes more sense and still a pretty good find!
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First, I'd like to apologize for the confusion/excitement I've stirred on the board regarding my bike. On my initial post, I inadvertently listed my frame number as 1007414. I'd copied that number from my research notes not realizing it's significance. (What are ya, NEW!!?!). Well yes, I am. The actual numbers are; frame - 1002307 and engine - 1002428. That being said, for the reasons stated on my first post, I think it may be best at this time that I put it up for sale. Being new to all of this and not having a firm price in mind, I'll be accepting offers.
Also, as my original goal when I first heard of this bike roughly four years ago was to to get a classic CB750 I could restore and ride, I would also consider a trade for a running bike of comparable value.
I've taken many close up photos of what I have and would be happy to email them to any interested parties. Also, please feel free to call me at (719) 375-3667, and I'll do my best to answer any questions you may have.
Thanks,
Len
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Len sent me a couple pictures and i just got done talking to him on the phone. A pleasure to talk to and his story discovering the bike and then actually getting it are great ! Sounds like he'd consider a trade for a CB750 he could ride. Great way for somebody to get into a sandcast !
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Thanks to all who responed to my post. I've really enjoyed meeting you all and learned a lot about these awesome bikes along the way.
Best,
Len
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Okay.........
Who bought it.......... ;D ??? ;D ???