Honda CB750 Sandcast
Web Site and Bulletin Board Changes => Web Site Changes => Topic started by: Wayne on February 15, 2014, 01:30:35 pm
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Working away on the "Registry". No big changes really. Please check that your information, email etc. is current. Thanks!
http://cb750sandcastonly.com/new_template/registry.htm (http://cb750sandcastonly.com/new_template/registry.htm)
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Looks good, Wayne.
Joe K.
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Completed! :)
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Was the 9th april 2012 the last person to join?
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That is the latest info I have!
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I have thought that the Registry and the VIN Directory could be combined. There are many owners that have multiple bikes in the Directory but it seems that at least some of them are only listed once in the Registry. Just a thought.
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I have thought that the Registry and the VIN Directory could be combined. There are many owners that have multiple bikes in the Directory but it seems that at least some of them are only listed once in the Registry. Just a thought.
I had thought about that as well. The Registry is sorted by date the Member joined. The VIN directory from lowest to highest VIN. I guess the question would be, is the Registry redundant in that Members are probably registered via this board and also in the VIN Directory? Thoughts anyone?
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from a historical standpoint, fwiw, the registry was intended to record membership. the vin directory was to intended to record all known vins.
the 2 have been confusing ever since.
in the true sense of the word we are not a club. SOOC has no benefits of 'membership' an actual club provides. no membership cards, no shows, no rides, dues, clothing, coffee cups, pins, etc. we do have the forum, but i believe anyone can read the forum with out 'joining". on the other hand, the AMA recognized us as a club and gave us the privilege of hosting the Classic Club at the 2009 VMD.
i don't know how important it is to people to have a membership number. some it probably matters and others could care less........ ?
if one can figure out how to combine the two, great. if not, then one of them should go, it makes sense the registry, as i would certainly think we want to keep recording every known vin that we find.
on another note..... i wonder how many sandcasts we don't know of that exist in Japan....
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I just very quickly made a template. We would list all the VIN's currently in the Directory and set the tables up like this. If you want your name public with your VIN, consider yourself a Member? I like the idea of setting it up lowest to highest VIN.
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i would suggest and feel it's important, sandcast vins are separate from die cast vins.
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i would suggest and feel it's important, sandcast vins are separate from die cast vins.
Agreed as this is the "sandcast" side of the house.
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I agree with Steve's comment suggesting, sand cast vins are separate from die cast vins. Marty K.
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I like the idea of the registry in the order of the date a person (member) wanted to be part of the forum similar to what it is now. Under each person/member a list with his vins can be added one for sand cast and another for K0's.
Steve i know of at least eleven (11) sand cast bikes in Japan. Marty K.
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I think that a numbering from low to high (sandcast), low to high (diecast) with the French machines also being recorded is a good idea I'm not too fussed about a registry any longer as we are all participants. I do like the idea of adding some additional detail to the directory although I'm not sure what extra that is.
I'm not a fan of names being placed in the directory as ownership changes and over the years all the detail becomes blurred. Face it we are not growing young. I'm all for including the salient detail, maybe include location and then leave it up to the individual to sort. One thing I do have concerns about is recording bitsa bikes. Does an engine and frame (with not much else) constitute a bike or an assemblage of 2 parts. I believe we should clearly articulate if a bike is complete or a relic of its former glory.
Here is a thought. Is it possible that a template can be developed so that the individual owner adds the detail and then uploads. For example we have a set menu for some items such as the CB750-100____ for engine number All the fields must be completed. Color could be the 3 original and the 4th choice is other You get the drift. Thus, it is a consistent set of data with a word limit field for other information ................. Just a thought
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OK, I think what I'm hearing is that the "Registry" page can go and we consolidate information in the "VIN" Directory" page or whatever we choose to call it. KP brings up some good points when it comes to relics vs complete bikes. How do we want to handle this? I'm assuming when the directory was implemented it was to identify every "sandcast" engine found out there??
So if we ARE going to go with a new consolidated page let's identify the information we want to collect. Don't worry about the K0 diecast stuff for now. When I do the K0 side of the house we'll enter that information there.
KP, for now I want to get the current information migrated over to the new format and get the site up and running. For the future I do intend to use forms where I can so users can submit information like you suggested. First we need to identify the fields we want to display and make sure that works for us over time. When it comes to building a form, database etc. as you suggested, I only want to do that once. I don't mind re-doing a page manually with some cut and paste. :)
So give me the fields gents, from left to right. What information would you like to collect?
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vin page should include all vins, 'matching' pairs, frames and engines within the 1-7414 range.
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How about VIN and engine numbers, color, owner (optional), location (country), present state (restored runner, partially restored, original, basket case, etc.). Just some ideas. If the listing was just an engine or frame it could be a way for members to find one to pair up to make a complete bike. If nothing else it would be fun to know that they existed much like the directory now shows.
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Great ideas! Here's what I have so far. I could also add a link to finished units that are uploaded to our photo gallery.
Anyone else?
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I like the second data set up. (casting date)?
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I like the second data set up. (casting date)?
Yep! Thanks I overlooked that one.
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Looks good Wayne!
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Great Wayne Yus doing a mighty job ;D
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Natural order of things, it seems to me is VIN, low to high. I'm not sure I like the engine VIN beneath the frame VIN, as it appears to makes it less easy to see the increasing order VINS, ie, confuses the natural order (yes, I realise that is why the "F" and "E" are there). E VINS alongside frame VINS seems more logical to me, but does mean another column, which maybe compromises page width?
To group info against owner name would make the list rather random, and of course there are more VINS without owners than with. Also, as has been commented, owner information tends to become incorrect as bikes change hands.
Current VIN directory does include "loose" engines / frames, valid data after all. Frames only are easy, as they fit in the natural increasing number system, but engines without frames? - who knows where they fit!
The existing VIN directory was laid out with line breaks at various places (between 2 digit and 3 digit, at each 4 digit break point after 1999, 2999, 3999, etc) to make it easier to see, given how long the list has become. This also affords an opportunity to group those loose engines say at the start of a VIN range block (1xxx engines at start or end of 1xxx frame block for example; not foolproof but sort of fits?).
Just thinking out load at this "get it right" stage, you understand.
Cheers - Chris R.
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Anyone else have any input before I take another run at it?
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My vins are wrong! should be 1676 5/19 1638 frame first August 20'69 if some time that date is to be set up too. And something I shouldn't bother about, but my friend Henrik Stubkjær set me up as member here in o7 but are now moved to member 107 of o8! He's year is probably 06. As is Harald Falkentoft who set me up to Henrik in those days. Haralds 1648/1660 vins do look wrong too. As Scandinavian redactor he claims his vins to be 2155/2276 later changed to 5583/5557. And Henrik have a vin 1661/1660 in the directory! But as my vins can be wrong others can too I think, though at the time I thought Henrik had got mine wrong from being here visiting me.
Youers Erling.
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hang in there erling ! things'll get straightened out. you're not the only one with vin inaccuracies. it's probably my fault. i need to send Wayne the email i've received since around june 2012. right now Wayne has ALOT more on his plate than dealing with vin inaccuracies which i KNOW he will get taken care of, all in good time !
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I agree with Steve, get the lay out we would like to see/use and fill in the smaller details as the site progresses. Wayne keep up the good work it is greatly appreciated.
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We are of course reliant on VIN information being accurately observed, reported, and entered, all of which do not always happen. After that it can still readily be corrected, although the editor does not seem to work on some combinations of operating system / web browser.
Once the layout is sorted, we can then work on the data again.
Chris
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in the true sense of the word we are not a club. SOOC has no benefits of 'membership' an actual club provides. no membership cards, no shows, no rides, dues, clothing, coffee cups, pins, etc. we do have the forum, but i believe anyone can read the forum with out 'joining". on the other hand, the AMA recognized us as a club and gave us the privilege of hosting the Classic Club at the 2009 VMD.
I tend to agree with Steve on this one. I have made a combined page of "Members" and the VIN directory. I guess we could say anyone who lists contact their name etc is a "Member". Let me know what you think of the page setup. There's a helluva pile of VIN's to do manually! :/
http://cb750sandcastonly.com/new_template/registry_new_template.htm (http://cb750sandcastonly.com/new_template/registry_new_template.htm)
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Hi Wayne, Great ideas combining Registry and VinD ! simple is always better. i like your idea of a listing a name as recognizing 'membership'.
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Looking good. I presume the first column will automatically re-number when you have to insert a record in at a later date? The date first sold column will be a little sparsely populated I think!
If you need help entering the data, just say the word.
Chris R.
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Looking good. I presume the first column will automatically re-number when you have to insert a record in at a later date? The date first sold column will be a little sparsely populated I think!
If you need help entering the data, just say the word.
Chris R.
Thanks Chris. No the first column won't re-number when I insert or delete a record but at least it now be in tables. Later on, I hope to use those tables and populate them re a database. Information will be entered into a database using an online form. With that type of model you can have the page display and "sort" the rows or columns. That's future. I want to get what we have transferred over for the moment.
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Nice concise, easy to work with set up, excellent lay out. Marty K.