Honda CB750 Sandcast
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Wayne on January 23, 2013, 01:22:56 pm
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I thought a quick and nifty little thread would be to track some sandcast sales trends. As numbers come in I'll put a graph together and post it. We would probably do 3 category's.
Incomplete Bike
Complete Original/Unrestored
Restored or Refurbished
Try to include the date sold and of course the amount the bike was sold for. Perhaps VIN would be nice to see correlation between low to high VIN sequence and sale price.
So, if you know of any recent sandy sales post em up! Might get interesting over time.
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Wayne,
I have a spreadsheet that I have been compiling for a couple of years. I'm out of town right now but I'll send you a copy when I get back. Another possible category would be engines. I've seen a couple of those.
Mark
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Wayne: If possible of the three categories you started with i would also consider two other categories, of just frames and engines/motors. Marty K.
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Sounds great guys. It will be interesting to pull this together.
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Just wondering if certain data should be excluded like reserves not met, no sales, or even very high reserves that were met. I'm pretty sure when a seller sets a very high reserve they are just fishing for an appraisal. Problem with this is bidders have a history of bidding to find the reserve and then pulling bids resulting in a no sale after the end of auction.
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Is there any thought to a category of unrestored , they are only original once, I was at the Vegas bike auction and the unrestored bikes were getting a real premium. just a thought
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sorry wayne, you have that category
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Hi!
This is Bo from Sweden Writing. I´ve recently sold two fully restored sandcasts here in Sweden and also bought another one from USA. I´d like to change information in the registry and was told someone else than Chris does it nowadays. Who is doing it and I´d like an emailaddress where I can send information about the Swedish bikes.
Looking forward to an answer, Bo
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Hi Bo
Good to see you back. I'm making changes to the web site and for now at least I'll do the updates. I have many to catch up on as I have been very busy this summer and unable to spend much time on the site. The new directory is here:
http://cb750sandcastonly.com/new/vin_directory.html (http://cb750sandcastonly.com/new/vin_directory.html)
contact: sandcast750@gmail.com with any updates.
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Hi just checked H H auctions at national motorcycle museum UK gold sandcast prototype sold today for just short of £150,000 wonder where thats going ?
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Hi,
Here is a link to a Bonhams auction which took place in october.
https://www.bonhams.com/search/?q=cb750&main_index_key=lot#/q0=cb750&MR0_display=search&m0=0?q=cb750 (https://www.bonhams.com/search/?q=cb750&main_index_key=lot#/q0=cb750&MR0_display=search&m0=0?q=cb750)
(1 £ = 1,28 US$)
#1002196 was sold for 35 000 USD !! The frame number on the steering column is not very "beautiful".
#1000565 seems not to be sold.
#1006725 was sold for endue 41 000 USD
2 diecast was sold for 15 000 USD et 20 000 USD.
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I thought there was a more recent thread about this but couldn't find it. Is it just me or is there less "fever" at the 50th anniversary than there was 10 years ago. I remember bike and parts prices spiking about that time. I'm not seeing that now. As us old guys get tired of collecting or worse, gone, who's going to buy them. I could see the price going down as the supply goes up and the demand goes down. Every now and then I think about whether or not I should sell #97. And selling #97 is not something I'd want to leave up to my wife. Are prices going up, down or staying the same? Any thoughts?
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Didn’t you have a spreadsheet of sales as you came across them mark? Running a trend line by price and date would be interesting.
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I do have it somewhere but I haven't updated it for years. I'll try to track it down anyway.
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Here is my spreadsheet. Not sure how useful it will be for current price trends. My last entry was 2015.
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My sense is that they are more-or-less staying the same. Hagerty's valuation tools seem to say a different story for sandcasts specifically:
(http://www.cb750sandcastonly.com/images/sandcast_values.jpg)
Here's how Hagerty gets these numbers. (https://www.hagerty.com/valuationtools/About-our-prices)
I don't think values have gone crazy as some expected on the 50th anniversary though.
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Thanks Sam. Interesting. Of course if the prices are staying the same that means that the value is going down. :(
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Hi my friends!
Long time since you heard from me. I am still mending bikes, almost retired and enjoying life.
In sweden some sandcasts are sold the latest days and down below you have some information.
1. #3237/3227, fully restored and perfect. Euro 35.000.
2. #3105/3209, fully restored and perfect. Euro 35.000.
3. #3412/3838, fully restored and perfect. Euro 30.000.
4. #5127/original engine. Projectbike, not running. Euro 14.000.
All bikes sold in sweden and stays in sweden with 4 new sandcastowners.
Best Regards, Bo from sweden.
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Bojje, thanks for those numbers. Are these bikes you have restored? How are these prices when compared to unrestored Sandcasts?