Honda CB750 Sandcast

The Restoration Shop => Lighting Systems and Chassis Electrical => Topic started by: markb on August 24, 2015, 06:00:44 pm

Title: Color of lettering on handlebar controls
Post by: markb on August 24, 2015, 06:00:44 pm

Red or orange?  The repros look red to me.  The old ones look orange.  Just faded?

Title: Re: Color of lettering on handlebar controls
Post by: Steve Swan on August 24, 2015, 07:09:06 pm

the original was sort of a red, but not a true red.  there is a bit of orange tint.  it is the typical red color seen on most Japanese bikes of that era.   i was able to buy period packaged nos for 4363, they are not red nor orange.   the color is definitely more red than orange but was not a true red.  i've seen the new switches w/ red lettering.  and i've seen used switches that appear to have faded out orange.

Title: Re: Color of lettering on handlebar controls
Post by: markb on August 25, 2015, 07:50:18 am

So red in the right lighting from 2 feet away would probably be good enough?  ;)

Title: Re: Color of lettering on handlebar controls
Post by: 4pots1969 on August 25, 2015, 08:34:12 am

Hi Mark, The final rendering will entirely depend on red that you use and it would be very sad to miss this last step... Need a slightly bright but not fluorescent red-orange as recent manufacturing..
Here are some good pictures of my two Switch Assy original HONDA 1969/1970 stamped "Made in Japan"
If this can help you determine the Red...

Title: Re: Color of lettering on handlebar controls
Post by: markb on August 25, 2015, 02:43:04 pm

What was your source for the paint?

Title: Re: Color of lettering on handlebar controls
Post by: 4pots1969 on August 25, 2015, 03:37:57 pm

I have no source for painting... They have not been redone because they are new and come from an old stock...
In my opinion the color to make a mixture is 50/50 red and orange or take directly a vermilion red (warm red)
But before doing tests... And I think that it should not put fluorescent in the mixture.

Title: Re: Color of lettering on handlebar controls
Post by: Steve Swan on August 25, 2015, 04:28:20 pm

Quote from: 4pots1969 on August 25, 2015, 03:37:57 pm

I have no source for painting... They have not been redone because they are new and come from an old stock...
In my opinion the color to make a mixture is 50/50 red and orange or take directly a vermilion red (warm red)
But before doing tests... And I think that it should not put fluorescent in the mixture.

Agreed !

Title: Re: Color of lettering on handlebar controls
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on August 26, 2015, 10:04:31 am

In my opinion, this will fit good:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/REVELL-32330-14-21-100ml-EMAIL-FARBE-FEUERROT-SEIDENMATT-14ml-/391229790493?hash=item5b171cd91d (http://www.ebay.de/itm/REVELL-32330-14-21-100ml-EMAIL-FARBE-FEUERROT-SEIDENMATT-14ml-/391229790493?hash=item5b171cd91d)


RAL3000 Feuerrot, maybe you find it somewhere over there.

Title: Re: Color of lettering on handlebar controls
Post by: 4pots1969 on August 26, 2015, 10:56:27 am

I found this link of restoration, they used Humbrol n°19...(19 Bright Red)
But perhaps too red and not enough vermilion...

http://www.cb-et-four.com/interactif/fofo_cb500four/viewtopic.php?p=206546&sid=9646f11404f0e88ff9348cd4fb80e6f6 (http://www.cb-et-four.com/interactif/fofo_cb500four/viewtopic.php?p=206546&sid=9646f11404f0e88ff9348cd4fb80e6f6)

Swatches Humbrol :
http://scale-models.nl/cc-humbrol.html (http://scale-models.nl/cc-humbrol.html)

Title: Re: Color of lettering on handlebar controls
Post by: markb on September 06, 2015, 12:40:26 pm

How’s this for a color match.  It is Model Master brand Italian Red.  It definitely has an orange tint to it.  I think it’s pretty close.
(http://cb750sandcastonly.com/coppermine/albums/userpics/10002/DSC01754.JPG)

Title: Re: Color of lettering on handlebar controls
Post by: Steve Swan on September 06, 2015, 03:59:40 pm

looksa niceah italiano red

Title: Re: Color of lettering on handlebar controls
Post by: 4pots1969 on September 07, 2015, 04:43:26 am

Mark, Very beautiful rendering!!  ;)