Honda CB750 Sandcast

The Restoration Shop => Engine Mechanical => Topic started by: 4pots1969 on March 28, 2015, 07:26:23 am

Title: Guys, I need your help...
Post by: 4pots1969 on March 28, 2015, 07:26:23 am
On the 4 x 6x25 bolts securing the oil engine lines one is mentioned "special" on the Part List with a different reference: 90040-300-000. That was t it special screw screw of the three other?  :o
Thanks for the precision. ;)
Gerard
Title: Re: Guys I need your help...
Post by: kmb69 on March 28, 2015, 07:30:50 am
One of those oil line screws had a cross point in the hex head if that's what you are asking about.
Title: Re: Guys I need your help...
Post by: Steve Swan on March 28, 2015, 08:12:09 am
yes, JIS head that went in rear hole of front oil line, if i remember correctly.
Title: Re: Guys, I need your help...
Post by: 4pots1969 on March 28, 2015, 08:55:40 am
Could someone post a picture of this special bolt 6x25? What is the usefulness of this special bolt? ???
Title: Re: Guys, I need your help...
Post by: Steve Swan on March 29, 2015, 02:34:32 pm
if you give me a couple days, i can do that.  this bolt fixes front line.  it's the rear bolt on front line.  basically, it's a 10 mm hex head with a JIS (similar to Phillips head).  this bolt accommodates a 10 mm wrench *and/or* a JIS (similar to Phillips) head screw driver.  basically, it's like any 6 mm engine cover screw, except it is also a hex head.

Hi Mark !!  what would you call this special "fastener?"  a JIS/hex head screw ?  or a JIS/hex head bolt ?   :)
Title: Re: Guys, I need your help...
Post by: cb7504 on April 02, 2015, 05:25:11 pm
From what i remember this special hex head bolt with the JIS or #3 phillips type screw driver head. This special bolt was closer inline with the frame tube making it more difficult to install/remove with a socket. A JIS or #3 phillips works nicely.   
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Post by: markb on April 02, 2015, 05:39:00 pm
Hi Mark !!  what would you call this special "fastener?"  a JIS/hex head screw ?  or a JIS/hex head bolt ?   :)
That would be a JIS/hex head screw.  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Guys, I need your help...
Post by: Steve Swan on April 02, 2015, 07:39:17 pm
Gerard, do you understand how this screw is unique ?  Gerard, comprenez-vous comment cette vis est unique ?
Title: Re: Guys, I need your help...
Post by: 4pots1969 on April 03, 2015, 03:57:38 am
Could someone post a picture of this special bolt 6x25? What is the usefulness of this special bolt? ???

Steve... I ask you the question because I do not have the answer... ;)
I want to know is why Honda has decide to put this "special" screw, there must be a very good reason where then it's completely silly...
Title: Re: Guys, I need your help...
Post by: Steve Swan on April 03, 2015, 09:15:22 am
Gerard, i couldn't load  picture (too many pixels) on discussion board, so i sent you an email with picture last night.
Title: Re: Guys, I need your help...
Post by: 4pots1969 on April 03, 2015, 04:31:29 pm
Steve, thank you for the picture.
If I have no plausible explanation when has the usefulness of such bolt, I put one as the other three...
Gerard
Title: Re: Guys, I need your help...
Post by: Steve Swan on April 03, 2015, 07:11:11 pm
From what i remember this special hex head bolt with the JIS or #3 phillips type screw driver head. This special bolt was closer inline with the frame tube making it more difficult to install/remove with a socket. A JIS or #3 phillips works nicely.  

i concur with Marty's answer.

btw, fwiw, if you use these screwdrivers, you will never pick up another Phillips screwdriver.  cost $89 from Vessel + shipping.....  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vessel-Megadora-8pc-Japanese-Motorcycle-ATV-Repair-JIS-Screwdriver-Set-/111604527890?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19fc25f312 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vessel-Megadora-8pc-Japanese-Motorcycle-ATV-Repair-JIS-Screwdriver-Set-/111604527890?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19fc25f312)
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Post by: Marcello Tha on April 09, 2015, 08:15:46 pm
Is it the special bolt we are talking about?

Marcello
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Post by: 4pots1969 on April 10, 2015, 05:03:14 am
Thanks Marcello...

But why put this 'special' bolt with a cruxiforme footprint and this washer crimped methinks... ??? ???
Who can explain to me...
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Post by: cb7504 on April 10, 2015, 08:19:24 am
Yes this picture is the special bolt for the forward oil line comming off the engine. Marty K.
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Post by: Steve Swan on April 10, 2015, 10:03:41 am
From what i remember this special hex head bolt with the JIS or #3 phillips type screw driver head. This special bolt was closer inline with the frame tube making it more difficult to install/remove with a socket. A JIS or #3 phillips works nicely.   
Title: Re: Guys, I need your help...
Post by: 4pots1969 on April 10, 2015, 10:18:21 am
From what i remember this special hex head bolt with the JIS or #3 phillips type screw driver head. This special bolt was closer inline with the frame tube making it more difficult to install/remove with a socket. A JIS or #3 phillips works nicely.   

Thank you because I had not seen this answer...