Honda CB750 Sandcast

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Title: sandcast 5488 on eBay
Post by: Kevin M on March 04, 2016, 11:03:08 pm: Seller says the engine is not original, but he found one (E5448) that was only 40 number off.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CB-/121909026096?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1c62581d30:g:ezkAAOSwzgRW06GO&item=121909026096 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CB-/121909026096?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1c62581d30:g:ezkAAOSwzgRW06GO&item=121909026096)
Title: Re: sandcast 5488 on eBay
Post by: hondasan on March 06, 2016, 02:41:40 pm: Something odd with the frame on this one?
Gussets at rear shock look to me to be the long type which run back under the rear seat mount. I always thought the long gussets did not appear until into 1970, ie, well past end of sandcast frame VINS.

Chris R.
Title: Re: sandcast 5488 on eBay
Post by: cb7504 on March 07, 2016, 12:31:01 am: Chris i also noticed the gussets at the rear shocks looked to be the longer version as came on later frames.
Title: Re: sandcast 5488 on eBay
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on March 07, 2016, 02:07:52 am: Quote from: cb7504 on March 07, 2016, 12:31:01 am
Chris i also noticed the gussets at the rear shocks looked to be the longer version as came on later frames.

What exactly is the difference?
Title: Re: sandcast 5488 on eBay
Post by: UK Pete on March 07, 2016, 01:24:52 pm: The gusset on the sandcast and k0 is much shorter on the top frame rail
Title: Re: sandcast 5488 on eBay
Post by: DW69K0 on March 08, 2016, 09:26:05 am: Attached is a photo of short gusset on upper frame of Sandcast, for reference.
DW
Title: Re: sandcast 5488 on eBay
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on March 08, 2016, 10:18:36 am: Sorry, I dont see/understand what is meant with "short gusset"

Can somebody please indicate on the picture?

And what do I have here, early or late KO? (Came off a KO DC 16.0xx)
Title: Re: sandcast 5488 on eBay
Post by: DW69K0 on March 08, 2016, 12:02:14 pm: Here is new attachment that shows short gusset on early frame. Hope this helps.
The photo provided has this area of your frame covered, so not possible to distinguish from your photo.
DW
Title: Re: sandcast 5488 on eBay
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on March 08, 2016, 05:26:17 pm: Thanks.
I though it's on the shock itself after reading Hondasan 's post.
Title: Re: sandcast 5488 on eBay
Post by: kmb69 on March 09, 2016, 12:59:44 pm: Quote from: hondasan on March 06, 2016, 02:41:40 pm
Something odd with the frame on this one?
Gussets at rear shock look to me to be the long type which run back under the rear seat mount. I always thought the long gussets did not appear until into 1970, ie, well past end of sandcast frame VINS.

Chris R.

You are correct. This is one of the closest re-stamp, forging, jobs I have ever seen. But it has been re-stamped and the font is wrong. Close, but NO CIGAR! Check closely and you can see differences in almost all the letters/numbers. The 0's and 5's are dead giveaways. See pictures below. 1005315 is genuine.
Title: Re: sandcast 5488 on eBay
Post by: kp on March 09, 2016, 03:11:48 pm: Keith, That's a very very good piece of identification. :o I thought the numbers looked very deep compared to most stampings but didn't think much more about it. After noting Chris R's post I was looking more for frame patches but couldn't find any
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Title: Re: sandcast 5488 on eBay
Post by: markb on March 10, 2016, 09:19:07 am: Nice work Keith. A good lesson for all of us.
Title: Re: sandcast 5488 on eBay
Post by: kenhan on March 10, 2016, 12:21:25 pm: Hi, I think you could clearly see the gusset difference in this pictures.
/Ken
Title: Re: sandcast 5488 on eBay
Post by: CBman on March 11, 2016, 12:02:37 pm: I think that front forks are not from Sandcast and also front fender looks to be fake double cut. Another cheater seller ???