Honda CB750 Sandcast
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: markb on February 22, 2011, 01:49:27 pm
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I was having a problem sourcing part #83551-240-300, the narrow-type grommet for the oil tank (right) cover and the bottom of the battery (left) cover, so maybe someone else was having the same problem. Maybe I was just wasn't looking in the right place but I found them at this link:
http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/honda/H-83551-240-300.html (http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/honda/H-83551-240-300.html)
Apparently Honda uses them on their generators. They also have the other narrow grommet #17247-240-000.
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Thats a strange part number with a 240 product code.
My parts book shows the number as 83551-300-000.
Please educate me.
http://www.groupwracing.com/product-codes.pdf (http://www.groupwracing.com/product-codes.pdf)
Thanks,
1941wld
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The -240- grommets are the "narrow" style used on VINs up to 4148. They are listed in the April, 1969 parts book. 83551-300-000 and 17247-303-000 are the wider grommets used from 4149 and give better support for the covers and are probably better to use unless you're going for correct details on pre-4149 VINs.
Mark
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Good man Mark I just ordered a dozen ;D KP
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Good man Mark I just ordered a dozen ;D KP
Excellent. I'm glad it helped.
Thats a strange part number with a 240 product code.
I didn't look before, but I got curious as to what model 240 was so I checked your link and you probably know already it's not there. No wonder you thought it was a strange number. I checked a couple other sources for Honda part number codes and came up empty. Another mystery. ::)
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Mark, great information.
I'll follow KP ;)
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Honda CB125 ;D
Here's a useful link that has oodles of good info
http://www.cmsnl.com/faq.php?s_question=&id=13&fq_catid=14#16 (http://www.cmsnl.com/faq.php?s_question=&id=13&fq_catid=14#16)
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Great link. That's the biggest product code list I've seen. Has anyone ever used those codes to try to track down hard to find parts from other models in a salvage yard? It's fun how one post can lead to another post and everyone can learn something. Thanks KP!
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Yes Mark. I have used the codes many times but mainly to identify the model a part fits when it's listed on ebay. There are many many items that are listed on eBay that are not listed in the early (or late) parts books however the part may fit many other models including the CB750. Indicator bodies, lenses, fasteners electrical items and the list continues. I bought a NOS headlight a few years back that had an obscure part number but was an exact replacement to an early sandie light. I have a few later model bikes as well and get equally similar results.
The paint codes and other stuff is also useful
Here's a tip. Copy and paste the codes to your computer say, using Word format, just in case you lose the link or CMS go bust
KP
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Hi Guys,
I've got another topic that I'll open,
BUT, I want to ask this question on this topic to stat with.
How about we scan the part manuals we have. Make a PDF on these manuals and post them to our forum? I have the #1 parts manual dated !st pril, 1969. Now in this manual "No. used on" colum only has "FROM CB750E-1000001" because it is the first book. The #2 and #3 parts manual would help me.
Let e know what ya'll think.
Thank,
1941wld
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That is a great idea! You won't have anyone saying no to that.
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I think that in site SOOC us would have to be all the HONDA part list and all the shop manuals, with all bulletins, in PDF format.
Ready for the download or for an easy consulting.
A job for Wayne?
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Actually a timely question riccardo as we are working on a few things that will hopefully improve the site. The one thing we must keep front and center are any Copwright issues with published material. Basically, if it says Copywright on it we can't put it on the site. It gets a bit complex, but my understanding of Copwright is that it is good for 75 years. If it doesn't have a Copywright on it the group can review it as part of the changes.
We do ask that you not copy and publish Copyrighted material to the SOOC web site.
Thank You.
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Thanks, Wayne, for your reply.
The improvement Wayne is referring to, is a major undertaking requiring significant amounts of time to create essentially a new website, attractive and simple. Wayne very graciously and willingly took this job on, so he has more than enough work to do.
As far as having parts manuals, etc, on the website, I don't want to be responsible for copyright infringement resulting in the wrath of Honda after the club, website, any of us, including ME.
Original manuals are are generally available on ebay fo anyone who wants to own one, especially the later parts manuals, which really are more inclusive of superceded pn's, etc, at various vins. When members have asked me for a photo copy of a manual, i have readily obliged, the offer is a standing one.
I probably already stretched my luck too far when i put advertising literature on the website. Blame it on my excitement to share and learn more when i was still a baby sandcaster. Ultimately, due to the possiblity of giving Honda a chance to come after us for copyright infringement, there should be no factory literature on this or the new website.
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For what it's worth, the SOHC4 site has hundreds of manuals for downloading for just about every SOHC and other brands too. There's also the service bulletins and other info. They don't have the early sandcast manuals that we're talking about but my point is they are doing it. Maybe they're bending (or breaking) the rules but it might be worth checking out.
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Mark
I have seen this information and personally, I use it as a resource. I took a look at my Green Service Manual and I do not see any © symbols. Ditto for scanned Service Bulletins I have seen. Can one assume that Honda did not Copywright these early publications? From personal experience working in the automotive sector I know that Copywright became a HUGE issue, especially with the wild west mentality of the internet. Paper manuals will say that you can't even make a copy without written permission from the parent company. Harley took a hard stand as well. They went so far as to secure domain names that have "Harley Davidson" in them. Sites have to use domains like HDForums and HDTalking etc.
I'm getting off track here! ;D I guess the bottom line is it's Steve's site. If he wants to do some research and figure out whether the stuff can legally be uploaded that's his business. Should he take that plunge, I'm more than willing to help out and incorporate it into he new site changes.
How about a Warez server offshore? We could put anything and everything there! ;) Just kidding. If you don't know what that is you can read about it here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez)
hmmm, maybe I should check that other site and see where they are storing their Manuals etc! ;)