Stanley/Koito headlight

[kp]

I got a couple of these They have a big bulb inside but are a sealed unit.

[Steve Swan]

This sealed beam does not have the "STANLEY" logo in the center of the lens nor "MOTORCYCLE" on the bottom of lens.  The outside back of the reflector has a brass tower the 3 terminals protrude from.

Stanley's sealed beam lights I've seen have:

1.  "STANLEY" logo in center of lens
2.  "MOTORCYCLE" in raised letters on bottom of lens.  
3.  glass tower with 3 terminals

Is this a motorcycle bulb ?  Or is it automotive ?

If memory serves correctly, these brass towers are seen on sealed beams used on smaller displacement Japanese motorcycles..... ?  (seem to recall reading this in a post, on this DB or elsewhere.)

[Marcello Tha]

Dear Steve;

The headlight showed in the pictures is a Stanley HM24M/S model.
On internet i found one file that shows that this headlight is approved for Honda motorcycle part, see pages 3, 4 and 5 (yellow), not a car part.

HM-20/with Stanley HM-24M-S

http://www.vsp.state.va.us/downloads/VA_Motor_Vehicle_Approved_Equipment_List/11_Headlamp.pdf

In my modest opinion, the Stanley headlight with the logo in the center could be a late production part, on ebay i found only this type on CB 750 from 1976-1980, and with the motorcycle write could be a generic part, just conjecture.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Honda-cb750k-cb-750-k-cb750-750k-headlight-head-light-/130795454078?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e74043e7e&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-Honda-CB550-CB650-CB750-Four-Headlight-1978-CB-550-Head-Light-/330498567474?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4cf33fed32&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Honda-CB750-C-DOHC-Headlight-Lot-/330946127760?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d0ded2790&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Honda-CB750-C-DOHC-Headlight-Lot-/330946127760?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d0ded2790&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HONDA-CB750K-HEADLAMP-HEAD-LIGHT-LENS-33321-341-701-CB-750-K-A-1979-pw-/121119154884?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c3343a2c4&vxp=mtr

On Ebay there are a lot of CB450 headlights from the same era (K0/K1/K2) that don´t have the logo in the center.

I think that it is easy to find a CB450 Stanley headlight because it is a 12V 35/25W , that may last more than a 12V 50/35W , more difficult to find .

Could someone confirm that the original sandcast headlight is 50/35W?

I hope this can spice up our discussions.

Sorry about my English.

Thanks.

Marcello

[Wayne]

Stanley's were fitted to sandcast. 

Koito's were used beginning the K2 era.

Just realized, my K2 has a Stanley Motorcycle sealed beam. I'm going to yank that baby out and use it in 576. Don't really care what's in my "rider" K2.

[Marcello Tha]

At CB750 shop manual, dated 69/11 page 151, i found the information that the Headlight is 12V-50/40W.

Should be this the correct Stanley Sealed Beam Headlight for Sandcasts?

Marcello

[Steve Swan]

yes, that sealed beam appears what i believe correct for sandcast.

[ken736cc]

There was a time in the mid 1980s ( I owned a Honda dealership at the time) that when you ordered the headlight replacement part number 33321-505-003
American Honda would send a GE # 5006 automotive sealed beam. They did not even bother to take it out of the GE package.  Of course no CB750 ever left the factory with this bulb.

[Steve Swan]

yup, i remember going to Western Auto or Sears to get the automotive bulb.....

[Marcello Tha]

I noticed that are two types of KOITO headlights.

The early type was the K0/K1/K2 model headlight, part number 33321-505-003 and 33100-300-673 for the assembly part number.





The part number 33321-505-003 was used on S600 Honda car on Headlight (LH). See Honda S600 parts lists attached below.

http://www.cmsnl.com/products/light-assyrightfront-winker_33400505610/

Below you can see a S600 with a Koito headlight, note the "2" (in red).



The later type was the K3 onward model headlight, part number 33321-341-701 and 33100-341-701 for the assembly part number.



Please, correct me if I am wrong.

What is the correct Stanley headlight for sandcasts, with or without the center logo?

Thanks.

Marcello

[Marcello Tha]

Opinions from fellas?

[Steve Swan]

At CB750 shop manual, dated 69/11 page 151, i found the information that the Headlight is 12V-50/40W.

Should be this the correct Stanley Sealed Beam Headlight for Sandcasts?

Marcello

imho, this is the head light of choice  for any sandcast.  IMHO.

[Marcello Tha]

Someone can confirm that the correct koito headlight for sandcast have "2" on top and don't have "motorcycle" on the botton?

Marcello

[kp]

I need to say up front that I really don't know which is correct, however I don't believe the #2 on the top front glass should be considered a correct replacement headlight. IMHO it is incorrect KP

[Steve Swan]

I need to say up front that I really don't know which is correct, however I don't believe the #2 on the top front glass should be considered a correct replacement headlight. IMHO it is incorrect KP

Ditto that.   

also, i cannot quit believing the Stanley "motorcycle" headlight is correct for sandcasts.  Andy Dixon's very original unmolested 2 owner #175 has a Stanley headlight.