Honda CB750 Sandcast

New Reproduction Sandcast Brake Hoses

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OK Fellas; goodies time  :o. After 2 years (plus) searching Asia and Europe, making many many phone calls and sending emails to manufacturers I finally found someone to make repops of the early Sandcast brake hoses. I have loaded enough pictures so you can see what has eventuated. I supplied the manufacturer a pair of original hoses so these are dimensionally 99% correct. These hoses are same length as original, have the same diameter hose and nearly an exact copy of the banjo dimensions.
Only difference is I could not get the manufacturer to compromise on the hose. These have the date of manufacture and SAE standard embossed on the hose as well as having a yellow stripe as seen in the pics, therefore, these hoses are fully DOT compliant. I have nevertheless been able to satisfactorily remove with GP thinners and some fine grade sandpaper (see picture). These will be sold as they came and I'll let you do the stripe removal etc bit. I got the absolute minimum made so when they're gone they're done as it's just too much trouble and expense for me to get these done again. Several manufacturers will make them but the minimum order of 1000s of each doesn't make it economically viable to go further. The manufacturer I used was OK to make a small number but at a price.
I've included a few pictures to show how they look with stripe removed and how they compare to originals. The banjo is 2mm longer at the crimped end so they could effect a machine crimp. Use a gloss or satin tyre black (I spell the word "tyre" correctly  ;D) when done and they mirror the originals.
For those anal like me, I will be stamping the JAPAN wording on one banjo of the top hose (only top hose and one banjo with had stamping) You can buy 1mm and 2mm stamps off eBay.
Price will be $50 per hose or $90 per pair (cheaper than original K0's) plus postage. Postal rates are USA & Canada $15, Asia $12 UK, Europe and rest of world $16 (same cost for 1 or 2 hoses as both are under minimum weight) Two sets (or 4 hoses) will cost more. Postage includes the postage and post-pack. I would suggest that those with a few bikes may wish to get a few pair as your originals will eventually rot regardless as to what you do. Any left over will be sold on eBay
Pay Pal only fellas as bank drafts and money orders cost $35 to execute here and I'm sure you won't want to pay that. Please use my email link to contact me. Yibba  :-*


« Last Edit: January 27, 2011, 07:31:15 am by kp »
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Riccardo

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KP,

i'm very interested.

Please expain me how to have those hoses.

Thanks.
Riccardo
Your Italian friend.
737/940 Restored
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10253/10315 (K0) Next project
1969 - Kawasaki H1 Mach III low ign cover - Restored
1969 - Kawasaki H1 Mach III high ign cover - Restored
1971 - Kawasaki H1A - Restored
1973 - Kawasaki H1D - Preserved
1973 - Kawasaki Z1 Blackhead - Restored
1971 - Norton Commando SS - Preserved
1978 - Honda CBX - Unmolested Museum Quality
1988 - Honda CB 400SS - Unmolested
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2007 - BMW HP2 Megamoto - blue frame - New


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Hey Ricardo, Sorry my friend, I'm not understanding what you mean. Give it to me in Italian and English and I'll get there.
KP ;)
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Ciao KP, :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

I have translate yours post with Babel.
I am interested to 2 couples of hoses.
Will sell them you?
Or they will be sold through ebay?
Or you are compiling a reservation list?
Let me know.
Sincerely
Riccardo





Ciao KP,

ho tradotto il tuo post con Babel.

Io sono interessato a 2 coppie di tubi.

Li venderai tu?

Oppure saranno venduti tramite ebay?

Oppure stai compilando una lista di prenotazione?
« Last Edit: January 26, 2011, 02:40:59 pm by riccardo »
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Your Italian friend.
737/940 Restored
1081/1362 Preserved
1256/665 Restored - ex Owner: Chris R.
10253/10315 (K0) Next project
1969 - Kawasaki H1 Mach III low ign cover - Restored
1969 - Kawasaki H1 Mach III high ign cover - Restored
1971 - Kawasaki H1A - Restored
1973 - Kawasaki H1D - Preserved
1973 - Kawasaki Z1 Blackhead - Restored
1971 - Norton Commando SS - Preserved
1978 - Honda CBX - Unmolested Museum Quality
1988 - Honda CB 400SS - Unmolested
1997 - BMW R80 GS Basic - blue frame - Museum Quality
2007 - BMW HP2 Megamoto - blue frame - New


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Hi KP,
Nice work mate. Glad u saw it thru. I'll speak to Bob if u haven't already and ask if he's interested. In the meantime put me down for a set. Pls flip me a pay pal address.

Cheers, Steven.


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Thanks for doing this.  I've been wondering what I was going to do about my brake lines.  Very Exciting!!
Mark B
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Hi KP,

2 set (upper+lower) for me.

Send me, on my email,  your Paypal address with total amount.

Riccardo
Your Italian friend.
737/940 Restored
1081/1362 Preserved
1256/665 Restored - ex Owner: Chris R.
10253/10315 (K0) Next project
1969 - Kawasaki H1 Mach III low ign cover - Restored
1969 - Kawasaki H1 Mach III high ign cover - Restored
1971 - Kawasaki H1A - Restored
1973 - Kawasaki H1D - Preserved
1973 - Kawasaki Z1 Blackhead - Restored
1971 - Norton Commando SS - Preserved
1978 - Honda CBX - Unmolested Museum Quality
1988 - Honda CB 400SS - Unmolested
1997 - BMW R80 GS Basic - blue frame - Museum Quality
2007 - BMW HP2 Megamoto - blue frame - New


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Great job, Kerry. Could you explain what the difference is with the later hoses?

Another point: I think that it is not a good idea to use thinner on rubber, especially for brake hoses. The thinner will solve the rubber and weaken your hose. And that's exactly what you not want with your hoses.




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Great job, Kerry. Could you explain what the difference is with the later hoses?

Another point: I think that it is not a good idea to use thinner on rubber, especially for brake hoses. The thinner will solve the rubber and weaken your hose. And that's exactly what you not want with your hoses.

The later hoses have a longer neck banjo fitting.
Thinner does have an effect and this is why I used it. But you will need to expose the hose to thinners for a long period for it to have a detrimental effect. The use I'm suggesting is minimal exposure and evaporation is very fast thus no further chemical reaction
I have used fine sandpaper which is just as effective if you are not partial to thinners. Me, I like to sniff while I work  ;D
« Last Edit: January 27, 2011, 07:33:15 am by kp »
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What grade sandpaper did you use?
Mark
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1969 CB750 sandcast #97 restored - Sold Restoration thread link
1969 CB750 sandcaxt #576 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #1553 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #1990 - Sold
1969 CB750 sandcast #5383 restored - Sold Restoration thread link
1970 CB750 K0 restored - Sold
2010 H-D Tri Glide Ultra Classic (Huh?)


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I'd just like to say KP has done a FANTASTIC JOB with these brake lines !

I've been comparing KP's lines to the original lines on 232. 

KP's lines could easily pass as an 1969 OEM  part. 

As KP wrote, not exactly like original, BUT the differences are so subtle, of no significance.

Bravo, KP ! 



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Steve,

thanks for the friendly support. :) :) :) :) :)

Riccardo
Your Italian friend.
737/940 Restored
1081/1362 Preserved
1256/665 Restored - ex Owner: Chris R.
10253/10315 (K0) Next project
1969 - Kawasaki H1 Mach III low ign cover - Restored
1969 - Kawasaki H1 Mach III high ign cover - Restored
1971 - Kawasaki H1A - Restored
1973 - Kawasaki H1D - Preserved
1973 - Kawasaki Z1 Blackhead - Restored
1971 - Norton Commando SS - Preserved
1978 - Honda CBX - Unmolested Museum Quality
1988 - Honda CB 400SS - Unmolested
1997 - BMW R80 GS Basic - blue frame - Museum Quality
2007 - BMW HP2 Megamoto - blue frame - New


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Sorry fellas, I've been a bit tied up to respond. Yes Riccardo and Steve V, no worries I've got you both covered.
Mark, I think it was a 400 wet and dry I used but could easily be a finer grit. Maybe other options you can use such as rubber paint etc etc. I thought thinner and a scraping was a good result for me but go with what works for you.
PLEASE NOTE. I'm not charging any handling costs like some of the thieves on eBay. You'll be charged what it costs me to send. I'm charging a flat $4 for Pay Pal fee ($3 per $100) and the $1.20 Post Pak cost regardless of how many you take.
Airmail charge for International postage is in multiples of 250 grams, with up to 250 grams being the minimum. A pair weighs just under the 250 grams and 4 hoses will go over that weight but be under the 500 gram mark.
Rates for 1 to 2 hoses
Asia NZ = $12.40
USA Canada = $13.50
UK Europe Rest of World = $15.30
Rates for 3 to 4 hoses
Asia NZ = $17.40
USA Canada = $19.70
UK Europe Rest of World = $23.30
I need to also say, if you don't like them (again unlike the thieves on eBay) and cos we are a member group I will offer a refund, BUT no refund for the postage as this is a sunk cost for me. I doubt I can be fairer than this but I'm 99.9% you won't be sending these back
OK fellas, can you send me your postal address and Pay Pal address and I'll do an invoice. Just restate how many you wish as I want to be error free
Cheers
KP
« Last Edit: January 28, 2011, 04:34:55 pm by kp »
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