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"88 Model Distinctions" / Re: Front fender
« on: January 27, 2020, 08:06:03 pm »
Hi Bo,
I am curious, does the fender with the rivets mounted farther forward than normal, cause the rear stays to sit higher than normal? Normally the rear (bottom) fender stay is parallel with ground. When the fender with the rivets place farther is mounted does the stay sit higher than normal, not parallel with ground?
Thanks for any info on this topic.
Best,
Duane

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Links to Auctions and Classifieds / Re: Wrinkle Tank for sale
« on: January 26, 2020, 06:59:20 am »
Seems the  striping on the tank is too low, but hard to tell from photos. Need a photo of the fron of the tank.
DW

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Parts For Sale / Re: FS: Early rear wheel damper NOS, NIB
« on: January 25, 2020, 12:56:35 pm »
Sent PM.
Duane

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Review of VIN'S For Directory / Re: SINGLE DIGIT VINs
« on: January 24, 2020, 06:28:44 am »
KP,
As normal thanks for the great information!  We know that frame 7 was paired with E90, do you know what engine was paired with frame 5? Any insights?
Best,
DW

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General Discussion / Re: Candy Blue/Green Shade Differences
« on: October 16, 2019, 11:53:31 am »
Here is my personal opinion. I think the Candy Blue Green paint starts out a lighter shade and fades darker with age.
See attached photo. The photo is from an original Sandcast oil tank cover.

The Candy Ruby Red does the opposite and fade out to a lighter color, eventually turning a yellow.beige color.

The original CBG paint (50 years) turns darker from my experience.

Duane

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General Discussion / Re: Double Cut Mudguards/Fenders & #8 Bolts
« on: October 02, 2019, 06:47:05 pm »
Here is a better link to Motorcycle Seats Direct website:
https://motorcycleseatsdirect.com/motorcycle-accessories/
DW

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General Discussion / Re: Double Cut Mudguards/Fenders & #8 Bolts
« on: October 02, 2019, 06:34:00 pm »
KP,
The double cut front fender from Yamiya is not the same fender as the one I purchased in the past from Motorcycle Seats Direct (Vietnam).  There might be several Vietnam suppliers?
 I have purchased a double cut front fender from both of these two suppliers.  Yamiya 's double cut fender is slightly higher quality, but neither are very good repops of the originals. Yamiya's fender is not bad, but bracket is way off and very thin material. The Yamiya bracket is not even a close replica of Honda originals.
The fender from Motorcycle Seats Direct had issues with the chrome and was really waving and lower quality overall.
Yamiya price is +$1,000 and Motorcycle Seat Direct is +$230 USD (excludes shipping)
I would buy the Vietnam double cut fender for a daily rider before I would spend the money on another Yamiya double cut front fender.  Yamiya needs to do a serious rework on their bracket in my opinion, other s views may differ.
Duane

http://www.motorcycleseatsdirect.com/

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Web Site Changes / Re: Forum Upgrades!
« on: September 28, 2019, 08:33:08 am »
Excellent job Sam! Thanks for making this have for our members!! It takes a lot of hard work and commitment to keep a site functioning and updated, we appreciate your talents!!

I also want to thank Wayne publicly for all the years he worked behind the scenes to maintain the forum, much appreciated Wayne!!!

And it goes without saying that, Steve is the Godfather of SOOC!

Sincerely,
Duane

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General Discussion / Re: The Not So "New Kid on the Block"
« on: September 28, 2019, 08:21:37 am »
Excellent post KP, thanks for sharing.
Hope other members see the value of your post.
Best,
DW

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"88 Model Distinctions" / Re: Oil Tank Side Cover Decal
« on: August 10, 2019, 04:35:30 am »
As always, you never cease to amaze me with your insights, knowledge and resourcefulness KP!!
Nice work!
DW

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Paint - Badges and Component Refinishing / Re: Candytone Paint Colors
« on: July 29, 2019, 11:01:14 am »
Gerard & Tom,
Perfect....many thanks for the help!!
Much appreciated!
Duane

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Paint - Badges and Component Refinishing / Candytone Paint Colors
« on: July 28, 2019, 03:38:57 pm »
Question for all members-

Honda Dealers of the day were supplied with a small can of paint and extra keys for all bikes, that arrived at their location, all bikes were shipped with these extras to their dealerships.

Most dealers did not pass the paint on to the buyers, some did, my question is does anyone have an original can of Candytone Blue Green paint that was supplied with your Sandcast, If so, what code is on the back of the can under the Candytone Blue Green title?

I know the Candytone Ruby Red has the following paint code: R-4C, what is the code on the back of the original can of paint for the Candytone Blue Green?

Thanks for any help,
Duane

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Gerard,

If I wrote brush line, I wrote that in error, sorry for any confusion! (The gold tank in my photo 2 probably could be confused for brush lines).

What I was trying to express are two ideas:
     1) The stripes have paint on them and are not a decal or sticker (Looks like I need to do some research on Water Transfer processes). The center Gold portion of the stripe is a metallic based paint by appearance when viewed under magnification.
     2) Second, I have in my possession, what I believe are several tanks with original painted stripes that do not have clear transparent edge lines. A knife or razor appears to have been used in the process.to cut through masked areas of the stripe.the majority of the tanks I inspected have the water transferred (let's call them that) stripes, but several do not, those appear masked and painted over the base color.

I agree with KP, the stripes are consistently 46mm wide as he pointed out.

Best,
Duane

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Gerard,
No brushes and no Kawasaki's mentioned, but I will show you a photo of what appears to be cut lines in an original paint tank stripe. I have many original paint Sandcast and K0 bikes. I question the theory that only water transfers were used. Maybe there were two methods used? See attached photo 1
I can clearly see on several of my tanks a clear film on outside edges (water transfers) but NOT on every tank in my possession.
See photo 2.
Maybe two methods were used?
There was also mention of clear coating tanks, don't believe that ever happened on the candy colors.
Best,
Duane

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KP,
Very Interesting Topic!
I for one, DO believe the tank strips ARE painted on based on my evaluation of original paint wrinkle and non-wrinkle tanks.
Curiosity get the best of me, so I went out to the shop and started to examine several different tank stripes under magnification. Under 10x and 20x magnification, I could clearly see where the striping was masked and I found cut lines from a Knife or razor. The edges of the striping clearly had distinguishable places where the paint was not perfectly aligned. I say they are painted.
I don't believe for one second the tanks were clear coated. I've spend many hours polishing original paint tanks from Sandcast and early K0 CB750s and the paint color always comes off on the polishing cloth.
You can bring the color back out on the faded stripes to gain a lot of color from these faded surfaces. Candy Blue Green tanks are preferred, as the Candy Ruby Red has a gold base coat that becomes very apparent when the sun fades out the red pigment.
I have one tank that clearly shows brush lines on the stripes.
Perhaps the process changed as production numbers increased, but early tank striping through early 1970 models sure seem to be painted beyond a doubt when viewed under magnification. That is quite an amazing feat of craftsmanship, if this was the truly the correct factory process.
There could have been multiple suppliers during the production runs and maybe different processes were used, but I firmly believe a strong case can be made for painted stripes on early wrinkle tanks.
Best,
DW

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