Another complete restored sandcast on eBay

[Riccardo]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160515193002&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AIT%3A1123

Numbers NOT present in our VIN directory.

Suggestions/observations?

[Mad Matt]

I just saw that - holy crap!  I believe its an unrestored original.  The last sandcast anything like this sold on Ebay for over 40K.

Matt

[markb]

I think he is saying its stored, not restored.  He didn't list the engine number (unless I missed it) so I asked him for that.  This is a later model so I'm guessing it won't go for 40K.  Low 30's maybe?  The wiring looks a little funny by the battery and the tool tray bottom looks like it was pitted and repainted.  Just my observations.
Mark  

[Steve Swan]

The seller told me the bike was put together using "all nos oem" parts.  I agree w/ Mark, there are some things on that bike that don't quite look right.  Obviously the exhaust are not correct and the seat coutour looks odd.

[cb7504]

I too looked at the bike most of the parts are probably oem. The seat looks to have been recovered with one of the earlier reproduction covers and a seat pivot pin is missing. I think the extra wiring in the battery area is for a trickle charging system. I too noticed they did not list the engine number or list any pictures of areas allowing anyone to identify the cases. I will admit the bike is very nice and is a very clean restoration. Was anyone able to get the engine number? Marty K. 

[Mad Matt]

The shocks look brand new and have the correct number of coils showing.  Are these shocks obtainable any longer??

I think the parts of the frame you can see look original and not re-finished ??

The front master cylinder looks original and new, another part that is very difficult to restore to look new with the original looking anodized finish.

Just some observations, I will gladly stand corrected if I am off on any of this, there are way more experts on this stuff than me on this board and I would love to hear from them because we all learn something that way.

Matt

[Riccardo]

I agree with Steve.
I've also contacted the owner but he replyed me with this incomplete engine number:100418....?
Some points under your eyes:
seat cover;
exhaust sistem;
front brake disk, not completely black painted in the rivets zone;
fuel tank mole, lete repro type used also by us;
head cover engine gasket;
tires;
front and rear hub polished;
carbs sandblasted, they have lost the luminescent patina of the alloy,
upper oil line brake marked 1976;
new gauges, but appears with difficult by photos that they have the sandy drive gear;
new master cilynder and handle electric knob.
Surely i can wrong, but i'm thinking at a GREAT JOB of Vic World.
Stored, Restored by the Owner or by V.W., sincerely, this is a very nice bike and i hope the owner will do a lot of money, well for him and for us.
The new owner is welcome.

[kp]

The seat is a Yamiya and is the red sponge type. KP

[Mad Matt]

Well it's a beautiful restoration...

I can see where the wheel hubs are nicer than OEM...and some of the other stuff you guys mentioned.  I guess if some of this stuff was original, there would have to be more yellowing of the clear coat and more patina, even if it was inside for 40 years.

Then what he means by stored, is restored and stored.  Should be advertised as a ground up restoration in that case.

I would still like to know where one can get the shocks and front master unless you are VW and have them in your parts collection already.

Matt

[Wayne]

I was thinking the same thing Matt! I could use a few of those beautiful parts for 576! Anyone care to share?? 

[Riccardo]

Hi KP,

the sponge of the seat is probably Yamiya, the pan and the skin no, at my advice.
Yamiya builts the complete seat or sale separately, but builts the early pan with few holes and 6mm treathed, moreover the skin yamiya is very made in pregiate materials, different respect this seat cover, the Yamiya look is very close to the original seat skin.

[1941wld]

Did you see the plastic washers on both sides of the gas cap hinge pin. Not original cap.

1941wld

[Joe K]

I am thinking with all of this apparent restoration work that appears to be done, that possibly the odometer could have been re-set back to zero and 600+ miles put on it.  Only this can be confirmed by the seller.

Joe K.

[markb]

The seller has posted that the engine number is 4013.

[kp]

The seat is a Yamiya and is the red sponge type. KP

I still think the seat is Yamiya. Base is probably the original. Maybe the cover is the original but doubt it. Hard to say but I accept the finish on the outside is not great. If anyone gets some answers from him we will know. The bike has been well restored though KP