Honda CB750 Sandcast

Restoration by Puccio from Tuscany

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Today is a big day, I can remove the engine.
For me is very hard because is the first time.
I have read much information from You and Now I am ready to start.
In the picture You can see me at work.... Very ugly  :P

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Man at work   ;D



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I can't finish because the engine is blocked in bad position.
Tomorrow I have to remove the wheels and to try to move the chassis.
Cb 750 Four k0 1970  "restoring ended"
Xr600r 1986 ''work in progress''
Cb 750 Fa 1980
Vespa Vba1t 150 year 1959


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The procedure you appear to be attempting; when installing the frame around the engine -or- removing the frame from the engine, the frame should be  stripped bare.

The purpose of this procedure is to either lift the frame  on to  -or- lift the frame off of the engine.  The bare frame weighs approximately 25 pounds  (11.4kg.)  The engine weighs approximately 175 pounds (80kg.)

The purpose of this procedure is to not lift the engine into or out of the frame.  

To carry out this procedure, the engine/bare frame unit is lying on the floor, on it's right side, propped with wood blocks.  The bare frame is then lifted onto or off of the engine.
  


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The procedure you appear to be attempting; when installing the frame around the engine -or- removing the frame from the engine, the frame should be  stripped bare.

The purpose of this procedure is to either lift the frame  on to  -or- lift the frame off of the engine.  The bare frame weighs approximately 25 pounds  (11.4kg.)  The engine weighs approximately 175 pounds (80kg.)

The purpose of this procedure is to not lift the engine into or out of the frame.  

To carry out this procedure, the engine/bare frame unit is lying on the floor, on it's right side, propped with wood blocks.  The bare frame is then lifted onto or off of the engine.
  


Many thanks Steve, but I am a little boy   ;D
This is the first important restauration.Today afternoon, with my father and the father of my wife we tried again.
Out the wheels, fork, and after 15 min. TA TA



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Cb 750 Four k0 1970  "restoring ended"
Xr600r 1986 ''work in progress''
Cb 750 Fa 1980
Vespa Vba1t 150 year 1959



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Bravo !

Tu sei bravo  .....translate..... You are bravo  ;D!!
I'm a schoolboy and you are my teacher  ;D
Many thanks Steve.....
In the next days I continue the work.

Now in my town is night, I would go to sleep.

bye

Cb 750 Four k0 1970  "restoring ended"
Xr600r 1986 ''work in progress''
Cb 750 Fa 1980
Vespa Vba1t 150 year 1959


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Buon giorno ! 

Thank you for sharing your passion, taking time to post text and pictures.   

Fino a che non ci incontriamo ancora, buona notte  !   (I hope i said that right!)



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Good job!

I bought this one: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Motorstander-Montagestander-CB750-CB-750-four-K0-K6-/260732664623

It's very helpfull when you work on the engine.

The idea is good, I can do it better,
the better solution (for me), is the reversibility.
During the restoration I want turn upside down the engine.
What do you think ? ::)
Cb 750 Four k0 1970  "restoring ended"
Xr600r 1986 ''work in progress''
Cb 750 Fa 1980
Vespa Vba1t 150 year 1959


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Hi To all.....

The disassembly of frame is finished, tomorrow I insert the pictures.
Steve, Lecram, I have the same question....
This braket is original?



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some people say to me that is original ....
I do not know what to do, help me please

For me is original, is built well, the paint is beautiful, also the welding is very nice.
But I do not find information regard this braket   :(

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The frame number is  1034xxx

Bye
Cb 750 Four k0 1970  "restoring ended"
Xr600r 1986 ''work in progress''
Cb 750 Fa 1980
Vespa Vba1t 150 year 1959


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Just my experience, i have never seen a bracket like this on any CB750 frame.

However, I appreciate your observation, paint and welding appear original.

Questions i would answer (to determine originality) by careful examination:

1.  Does paint on bracket and surrounding frame area appear unmolested ?  In other words, does bracket and/or frame appear to have ever been repainted ?  What color is base coat (primer) under black paint in area of bracket and other parts of frame.... (is color of primer same?)  If primer color same, then one could argue bracket is original.  If different color at bracket than other parts of frame, then one could argue bracket not original.   (Hope what i write makes sense !)

2.  Is weld steel or brass ?  (If i remember correctly, frame welds are steel.  No brass welds.....)

Cannot imagine why Honda would weld this bracket, during frame assembly, to the frame.  I am not aware Honda, had available a steering stabilizer as a single accessory or fitted a stabilizer on assembly line, during the time K0's were manufactured.  (As someone wrote earlier, APPEARS to be for steering stabilizer because of position and hole in bracket.)  I am not aware the CR750 kit, offered by Honda, contained a steering stabilizer in the kit.  My limited knowledge of the CR750 kit, this kit was not available until sometime 1970.  Pictures i have of the CR750 kit, does not show a stabilizer as part of the kit.

Will be good to hear again more from members.  Or, you could email Vic World with pictures and question.


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Good job!

I bought this one: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Motorstander-Montagestander-CB750-CB-750-four-K0-K6-/260732664623

It's very helpfull when you work on the engine.

The idea is good, I can do it better,
the better solution (for me), is the reversibility.
During the restoration I want turn upside down the engine.
What do you think ? ::)


That could be better when (dis)assembling the engine. But after you have assembled the engine and want to store it or adjust valves/camshaft or so, it's very helpful to have this. It's just a tip, I don't have shares  ;)




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 ::) i am sticking too my guns on this one , and still say the bracket is NOT ORIGINAL ,please take a closer look at your own picture it shows rust on all of the original welds of the frame, but not on the bracket even the welding is poor compared to japanese welding of the time. ::)
please cut it off it looks terrible :o


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On my frame there isn't the honda nameplate.
I can see only the holes. Four little holes in the left side.
Please, where I can buy the nameplate?
In Italy now is night, my eyes are closed....I go to sleep
Bye :P

 
Cb 750 Four k0 1970  "restoring ended"
Xr600r 1986 ''work in progress''
Cb 750 Fa 1980
Vespa Vba1t 150 year 1959


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The work on my Cb continues.
In this weekend I removed all the spokes from the wheels, and disassembled the key switch.
With my new key, get on ebay I verified that there was some problems about rotation key.
I had to disassembled the key switch and check all small parts.
The problem was that a small pin was in bad position.
The key switch is now completly disassembled but tomorrow afternoon I can reassembled.
Two beautiful picture for my friends.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-hW692P2BGR4/TpIWt2faKRI/AAAAAAAAAp8/y83Jfkd06RY/s144/Forconi911.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-eEwpvUnBQIo/TpMy5DbpxyI/AAAAAAAAArA/5Xa2QSsXq9I/s144/Forconi922.jpg
Cb 750 Four k0 1970  "restoring ended"
Xr600r 1986 ''work in progress''
Cb 750 Fa 1980
Vespa Vba1t 150 year 1959


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Ciao a tutti   ;D

In some parts of the forks and of the wheel, there is a trasparent paint, but my paint is old and ugly, I want polished these parts.
Do you know an excellent trasparent paint (type original paint honda) or i have to polish ?

 ;D

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hqMh15k8fg0/TpIWDQuvGxI/AAAAAAAAApI/IMJ08GfwBv0/s800/Forconi888.jpg

Maurizio
Cb 750 Four k0 1970  "restoring ended"
Xr600r 1986 ''work in progress''
Cb 750 Fa 1980
Vespa Vba1t 150 year 1959