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General Discussion / Re: Found A 1969 - What to Look For?
« on: March 02, 2010, 07:47:28 pm »
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General Discussion / Re: Found A 1969 - What to Look For?
« on: March 02, 2010, 07:42:50 pm »
Got down to see the bike again and drug it out into some daylight. I'm a bit less optimistic about this old girl. She does need a lot of work. I couldn't see the air intake box as it was in the owners basement along with one side cover and a spare seat he has. He's a trucker and hard to catch at home. I wrote the frame number down but lost the paper! Just a bad day...from the pics it looks like:
Frame - 1000578
Engine - 1000742
It does have a few good pieces as you will see in the pics but also some bad ones such as the instrumentation. I was most disapointed to see a bent fin on the cylinders and a bent/cracked one on the head. No pieces missing but I have no idea if this is smething that can be repaired to look "correct". It is obvious it was caused through neglect in the tight shed and it's probably how the air intke box got cracked. The inside of the fuel tank is almost like new. The owner did say he put gas in it and ran it in August then drained the fuel. I now believe him as you will see where he put a bolt in the fuel line to seal it off rather than reconnecting it. As well, the engine kicks over beautifully which was nice to see. Compression feels good as I went slowly through all cylinders. I remembered the bike having around 30K miles. The odometer is reading 29K and change. I was probably the last to ride the bike somewhere around 1979 or 80! I wish I had of brought it home with me then. Hindsight is 20/20!
Any comments that would help on whether or not this is a viable purchase/project would be appreciated.
Frame - 1000578
Engine - 1000742
It does have a few good pieces as you will see in the pics but also some bad ones such as the instrumentation. I was most disapointed to see a bent fin on the cylinders and a bent/cracked one on the head. No pieces missing but I have no idea if this is smething that can be repaired to look "correct". It is obvious it was caused through neglect in the tight shed and it's probably how the air intke box got cracked. The inside of the fuel tank is almost like new. The owner did say he put gas in it and ran it in August then drained the fuel. I now believe him as you will see where he put a bolt in the fuel line to seal it off rather than reconnecting it. As well, the engine kicks over beautifully which was nice to see. Compression feels good as I went slowly through all cylinders. I remembered the bike having around 30K miles. The odometer is reading 29K and change. I was probably the last to ride the bike somewhere around 1979 or 80! I wish I had of brought it home with me then. Hindsight is 20/20!
Any comments that would help on whether or not this is a viable purchase/project would be appreciated.
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General Discussion / Re: Found A 1969 - What to Look For?
« on: March 02, 2010, 07:39:17 pm »
I have gone through the site and picked out what I believe are the the crtical things to look for. The way I see it, even if the bike is only 90% original, it's a nice start for someone. If I don't take on the restoration you can be assured it will be offered up to people who will respect this old girl for what she is.
Thanks for your help so far folks. I'll post more details on the bike on Jan 17th or 18th.
Thanks for your help so far folks. I'll post more details on the bike on Jan 17th or 18th.
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General Discussion / Re: Found A 1969 - What to Look For?
« on: March 02, 2010, 07:38:19 pm »
Thanks Steve. Like I said, as far as I know just the handelbars and mufflers were replaced. The header pipes don't even have any rust on them. He painted it some crap brown with flames but the tins and side covers etc. are in good shape from what I can see. I did forget to say, the air intake box is cracked. What about that dual disk setup on the front? Is it from an aftermarket or did Honda offer it on these bikes? I looked at a lot of sancast pictures and I don't see any with dual disk.
I'll make him an offer when I go down on Sunday. I hate to see something like this sitting, not properly stored. I'm not sure if I will restore it or sell it. I do custom builds, mainly Harley and Brit bikes. I don't know if I have the patience to do a restoration like this justice. I'll have to ponder it.
I'll make him an offer when I go down on Sunday. I hate to see something like this sitting, not properly stored. I'm not sure if I will restore it or sell it. I do custom builds, mainly Harley and Brit bikes. I don't know if I have the patience to do a restoration like this justice. I'll have to ponder it.
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General Discussion / Re: Found A 1969 - What to Look For?
« on: March 02, 2010, 07:37:32 pm »
Well, I got down to look at the bike. Unfortunately I was not well prepared and the owner was not home so all I could do was get into his crammed little shed and gather what info I could. The bike has not been stored well, but it is not rotten. The tank is clean inside with no signs of rust. I couldn't check to see if it was siezed as the owner had it tight to the wall. The carb slides moved so I'm hoping the pistons will too. The wheels have light rust speckles and are candidates for re-chrome I believe. Same with the fenders. The mufflers have been changed to an aftermarket brand. (I remember now that the owner changed them out on a trip to Florida and left his originals behind) The front end has a dual disk setup which I'm assuming must be aftermarket as well. The gas cap itself felt loose but did latch. Couldn't get the frame number but I do know for sure that the engine and frame are a match as I know this bike's history. That's really all I could gather withough help and some light. I'm going back on Jan 17 2010. Hopefully I can be better prepared and better educated on the rarer items I should look for.
Lastly, I did get the engine number and I do know that nothing has ever been replaced on this engine other than the maintainance items.
CB 750E - 1000748
Oh yes. as I mentioned the handlebars are not Honda.
Lastly, I did get the engine number and I do know that nothing has ever been replaced on this engine other than the maintainance items.
CB 750E - 1000748
Oh yes. as I mentioned the handlebars are not Honda.
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General Discussion / Re: Found A 1969 - What to Look For?
« on: March 02, 2010, 07:36:43 pm »
Thanks Steve
I hope to get down and look at the bike soon. It's been a long time since I last laid eyes on it. Yes, I do have fond memories of riding it when I was younger. It was more reliable than the Brit bikes I was riding at the time so my friend was always willing to let me use it! I'll post my findings once I get down to view it.
I hope to get down and look at the bike soon. It's been a long time since I last laid eyes on it. Yes, I do have fond memories of riding it when I was younger. It was more reliable than the Brit bikes I was riding at the time so my friend was always willing to let me use it! I'll post my findings once I get down to view it.
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General Discussion / Found A 1969 - What to Look For?
« on: March 02, 2010, 07:36:02 pm »
My old friend is offering me his 69. I used to ride this bike in the later 70's. It has not been ridden since but I'm told the engine has been run as recently as summer 2009. I'm not sure what to offer him if it is a sancast model. As far as I know the only thing not original on the bike is the handlebars. It wil need a major resoration due to corrosion etc.
What should I look for on this bike to come to some kind of buying price?
I know to look for engine number between CB750 1000001 to CB750 1007414. I'l look for a "wrinkle" tank, cast gas cap? I'm told the exhaust is good and a candidate for re-chroming. Is there anything I should look for on the exhaust? Numbers etc?
Any help on putting a value on this piece (assuming it's a sandcast) would be appreciated. Other rare parts/features I should look for? I think I can pick it up for $2500.00 - $3000.00 Canadian. Thanks!
Oh, the bike has about 30,000 miles on it. Only a few more than when I used to ride it in the late 70's!
What should I look for on this bike to come to some kind of buying price?
I know to look for engine number between CB750 1000001 to CB750 1007414. I'l look for a "wrinkle" tank, cast gas cap? I'm told the exhaust is good and a candidate for re-chroming. Is there anything I should look for on the exhaust? Numbers etc?
Any help on putting a value on this piece (assuming it's a sandcast) would be appreciated. Other rare parts/features I should look for? I think I can pick it up for $2500.00 - $3000.00 Canadian. Thanks!
Oh, the bike has about 30,000 miles on it. Only a few more than when I used to ride it in the late 70's!
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"88 Model Distinctions" / Re: 86 Early production model distinctions !
« on: March 01, 2010, 10:01:48 pm »
I wondered that? Do we refer to our sandcast by the motor or frame number?
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General Discussion / Re: Registration and Title Paperwork
« on: February 28, 2010, 09:19:42 pm »
Steve, this is my understanding of how it works in Ontario.
Take your Bill of Sale to the MTO. If they can get a hit on the numbers and the vehicle comes up clean they will give you a new title and the person who's name is on that title will have to sign it off to you. You will then have to go through what I'm doing now, appraisal etc. for tax purposes and registration. If they have no history on the bike (ie: you bought it as parts on Ebay or whetever) you will have to lobby to the Country of origin for the new title. If you can't get one you may have to restore it in this fashion:
Gather your parts and retain ALL receipts.
Take same to the MTO.
They will list all the parts you used to build the bike on an affidavit. (They will look for all major parts that make up a Motocycle)
You sign the affidavit as true and correct.
They will assign a new title to the bike. Here's the kicker. Since the bike is now considered a "cutsom" build the title will reflect the model year the bike was built and you can call it anything you like.
And yes, you may now put the odo at zero as it's a "new" motorcycle.
Like:
"2010 - Sandcast 748"
I did an old ground up custom Harley for a guy, it's registered as a:
"2009 Milwaukee Shaker" (they didn't like "vibrator"
You can't use anything that is deemed inappropriate by the MTO.
In the Harley world, a neck with a number and title is worth as much as a good frame and title. I'm sure a sandcast frame and title are desireable as well.
If any other folks from Ontario have experinced this stuff sure would like to hear your stories as I'm always dabbling in this stuff.
Take your Bill of Sale to the MTO. If they can get a hit on the numbers and the vehicle comes up clean they will give you a new title and the person who's name is on that title will have to sign it off to you. You will then have to go through what I'm doing now, appraisal etc. for tax purposes and registration. If they have no history on the bike (ie: you bought it as parts on Ebay or whetever) you will have to lobby to the Country of origin for the new title. If you can't get one you may have to restore it in this fashion:
Gather your parts and retain ALL receipts.
Take same to the MTO.
They will list all the parts you used to build the bike on an affidavit. (They will look for all major parts that make up a Motocycle)
You sign the affidavit as true and correct.
They will assign a new title to the bike. Here's the kicker. Since the bike is now considered a "cutsom" build the title will reflect the model year the bike was built and you can call it anything you like.
And yes, you may now put the odo at zero as it's a "new" motorcycle.
Like:
"2010 - Sandcast 748"
I did an old ground up custom Harley for a guy, it's registered as a:
"2009 Milwaukee Shaker" (they didn't like "vibrator"
You can't use anything that is deemed inappropriate by the MTO.
In the Harley world, a neck with a number and title is worth as much as a good frame and title. I'm sure a sandcast frame and title are desireable as well.
If any other folks from Ontario have experinced this stuff sure would like to hear your stories as I'm always dabbling in this stuff.